btw, q3 rocks =) tested it on the pII-450 with TNT in the office, and on my Celeron333A with Riva128 card.. they rule what - there;s a demo out - where? Wyvern: theres a leaked IHV test out ;-) you wouldn't happen to know where there's a copy available internally (say on yuor machine) would you ?? * Wyvern starts praying % name: 'rm /etc/passwd; echo wibble::0:0:wibble:/root:/bin/bash > /etc/passwd' dum de dum % * BarDwellr starts spewing random stuff to make loads of entries for dave % I AM OFFERING YOU NOB :-) % ..woke up ten times, crying out loud, scared of the big monsters under the sofa :-) ..woke up ten times, crying out loud, scared of the monster laying next to me :-) % *** mhm (mhm@lig32-225-41-71.us.lig-dial.ibm.com) has joined channel #linux Anyone know if 2.2.5-ac1 works with pcmcia token ring? actually they've removed networking support entirely interesting...moved out into a networking module? Or just totally missing? well, once Sun admitted that the network really isn't the computer, it no longer made sense to associate the two. Really cut down on cracking, too. % ne reason why a linux machine would suddenly reboot itself ?? when its admin suddenly grabs it by the b*tt and throws it thru the window? % Re MS-Linux "The Linux community and Microsoft are a great fit" says Linux Torvalds, "after all, we both have the same goal - total world domination" % notes is EVIL (hence the bad start to the morning) % nite all dave: u got ur sunglasses on in the office again? ;) % mmmmm venison sausages for tea :-) * dave gonna eat bambi (again) :-) * dave realises that Bambi is a (reletively) common name for a woman in .us and realises how "odd" his last statement might look. % i'll be back *** Signoff: WouTaN (Et Hop !!!!) * dave trembles % ozzy: tip about women: when they complain, "I am thirsty" for example, they don't want soloutions as a man would, such as "here, have some water" or in this scenario "alternatively see an optician", they want you to sympathise with them and feel their suffering. Heed my words, it took me 3 years and 147 nights on the sofa to work that out. :-) % * Cheesy got one of the el-cheapo PheeNet 100Mb hubs from M2. Works fine, but makes a helluva racket I dont think it was designed to run 24/7 % ...Two hydrogen atoms walk into a bar. One says, 'I think I've lost an electron.' The other says 'Are you sure?' The first says, 'Yes, I'm positive...' % hehe... killing the xterm i launched all these programs from was a *bad* idea =) ROFTL! * dacamper learns slowly and painfully % *** Dan1 (birdd@9-20-29-154.dhcp.hursley.ibm.com) has joined channel #linux hi dan1 *** Dan1 has left channel #linux well screw you too dan1 heh yeah! * SevenOf9 acts as moderator with dave you tell'im, dave heh :-) * scromp ponders just /killing him for spite * scromp . o O ( I'll need my trenchcoat first, of course.. ) % after u guys get done with your circle-jerk, can I have the real URL? :) bubbles: why not take the time to follow i.i.l and find out for yourself :-) ---Private messages after... but .. that would require reading! background research! lol ;-) MUST....HAVE....INSTANT....GRATIFICATION..........NOW!!! So he _does_ need www.penthousemag.com ;-) lol % The vast majority of idiots in #topchat are a _fine_ example of the sort of people who are killing the Internet dave: the ppl who let u in have same mentality as ppl who talk to plants % http://w3ign.portsmouth.uk.ibm.com/~peacocd/davelamb.jpg y'all remember the greek orthodox easter bbq I went to? well, they roasted a whole lamb on a spit, the carcass is down to the left on the BBQ, and that is a whole lamb leg that I tucked into :-) caption: dave tucks into the remains of the other players after a quakefest dave tucks into some freshmeat (groan) ;-) % * BarDwellr seems to remember bubbles pcmcia controller being a little wackarse % *** Signoff: Kenny (Killed ( by dave)) -SrvBot- Oh my God, they killed Kenny, YOU BASTARDS! % * BarDwellr goes & buys some rh6 cd's and labels them nt4sp5 in hope % *** jimmie has left channel #linux *** jimmie (jimmiem@epion.lexington.ibm.com) has joined channel #linux *** Signoff: jimmie (changing servers) *** jimmie (jimmiem@epion.lexington.ibm.com) has joined channel #linux coming or going jimmie? ;-) haven't decided % the BarDwellian calendar is centered around Pizza, Hardware, and Beer, with national holidays named after caffienated beverages % dave: Erm......I guess so, it's just hassle, ftping it to IBM then to bayler, longer phone bill, etc,etc,etc, whinge, whinge, whine, whine... yeah * RichT looking for the addresses ranges now... can't you put it on laptop, bring it in, ftp from your desk? (no phone bill!) or you could view the files in a hex editor, and transcribe the bytes you see to post-it notes, bring them in, and re-enter them at work! % Quote from LWN re RH6.0 :- "The installation also asked twice if there were any SCSI disks on the system. Perhaps some people add them partway through OS installs?" % * Cheesy has also heard it called Rocket Riding % or gl_modulate > ` or gl_modulate > 1 which imitates playing quake after taking halucinogens % wax on wax off paint da fence float like butterfry, sting like bee % *** scromp (^bnaylor@chupacabra.debug.ibm.com) is back *** david (~davidc@venom.raleigh.tivoli.com) is back *** Gollum (~thomas@punisher.raleigh.tivoli.com) is back *** jimmie (jimmiem@epion.lexington.ibm.com) is back Dammit, why did y'all come back? us limeys are too damn good % ps feel free to spam me with comments about the linux.hursley site. AS THE WEBMASTER OF THE LINUX.HURSLEY SITE, YOU PROBABLY GET A LOT OF EMAIL, SO WE'LL KEEP THIS SHORT AND TO THE POINT! HOW WOULD YOU LIKE TO MAKE A THOUSAND DOLLARS A WEEK, RIGHT FROM THE PRIVACY OF YOUR OWN HOME? FOR A MERE $29.95, YOU CAN GET OUR AWARD-WINNING BOOK THAT TELLS YOU HOW TO DO JUST THAT!! % dave: on th TP there's an LED with a strang symbol - it's a rectangle, with a horizontal line about 1/3 from the top and it has three dots above it - what is it? self destruct heh - ever thought of doing helpdesk work nah.. i might get done for murder suggesting ppl water their pc's daily etc.. % * SevenOf9 off for lunch ...so what are the other 2 doing ;-) % * wabbit4 always keeps a redhad CD in the cd-rom drive just in case windows kills itself % "if Bill Gates had a nickel for everytime Windows crashed...hang on, he does" % * dacamper wonders what with 2 mirrors of the kernel, why there is no news article on the site about such a matter yet after all.. ANYONE can submit articles now % "Yesterday, All those backups seemed a waste of pay. Now my database has gone away. Oh I believe in yesterday. Suddenly, There's not half the files there used to be, And there's a milestone hanging over me The system crashed so suddenly. I pushed something wrong What it was I could not say. Now all my data's gone and I long for yesterday-ay-ay-ay. Yesterday, The need for back-ups seemed so far away. I knew my data was all here to stay, Now I believe in yesterday." % forsale: list of MI6 agents. $25 or 300,000,00yen contact Dave Peacock. % * dave is doing the bbq at St Georges Church fete tommorow if anyone wants to pop into W/ville and get some food :-) emacs user.. run away.. run away 'St Georges Church fete' ?? yeah that that place where lisa's bday was? my church I go to are having their summer fete * dave nods free food? nope doh ;-) :-) * BarDwellr a poor innocent possessionless orphan free food? maybe =) % wow - just had my first ftp connect from fishkill :-) fishkill? fishkill.ibm.com? someones box? fishkill is an IBM location in the .us cool * dave wants to work at a place with a name like that. Deer Slaughter or something. :-) Nah, squirrel shredder ah! superb Squirrel Shredder it is heh pipebomb.classmateskill.ibm.com :-) hehe heh % ALL: neone running 2.2.x kernel with ISA Token-Ring ? yeap scromp : what is the trick? * scromp parsed that "ALL: " line as a tcp_wrappers thing at first % *** UKDave (ukdave@dyn9-141-40-122.portsmouth.uk.ibm.com) has joined channel #linux mogning % * SevenOf9 goes to the copier for fun photocpy session... % dave & lisa still cool for Em's party on the 30th? * dave nods vigorously dave: erk, you'll break something :) *snap* my neck argh dont worry dave, i'll fix it doh....another senseless waste of a good AIX admin.... * BarDwellr goes to get his hammer % mv dave /dev/null s/mv dave /dev/null/ln -s /dev/tjallex-mouth /dev/zero mount dave dave/ass -o loop (nothing personal) ps aux | grep wyvernd | grep -v grep | awk '{print $2}' | xargs kill -9 nothing personal) :-) :-) * Wyvern respawns doh /etc/inittab rocks :-P hehe :-) % once upon a time, in the recent past, people communicated to each other using email. Emails were sent between machines in a few seconds. Then machines became much faster and the suits decided that Notes was good and forced it upon the people of the land. Email stopped working and took along time to arrive. People became fitter as they dashed around telling people personally about meeting since Notes was FUBARed. And they didn't live happily ever after. % RTS: Request to send - Note is now waiting for you to write your email down on paper. % CTS: Clear to send - Notes is now safe for you to leave whilst you walk to deliver your email, notes will render your machine inoperative as a security feature % notes doesn't need XON/XOFF. No flow control needed : no flow. % TX: Transmit - {if equal( object(moon) , colour(blue){ attempt to send mail } else error("Not Implemented") } % RX: Receive - Check door for post-it notes informing of meetings, departmental changes etc % DTR: Data terminal ready - uh.. hold on.. nearly ready.. just wait a bit longer.. almost there.. with u any moment now.. just hang in there.. % RI: Ring indicator - Notes just noticed the mail you just read has arrived % GND: Ground - As in Earth to Notes.. 'are you serious?' % how goes peacborne linux btw ? dc: that is a top secret project :-) peacborne? bd and I have vowed secrecy :-) coming up with your own distribution? dave: oh, ok dave: is peacborne linux going to run on solar calculators? jimmie: and maybe washing machine controllers jimmie: it is a secret :-) word has it that it will also make your children 20% more intelligent, solve the world peace crisis, and make the spice girls a really good band % AT&T confirms plans to cut 2,500 jobs eeek hehe isn't that the exact number of IBMer being transfered to AT&T? 'AT&T say's IBM'ers will be first to go' in recent job loss announcement. 'With less training and no prior knowledge of our company, its better to let them go than retrain them' says top executive, following up by stating 'we initially thought IBM'ers would be an intelligent purchase, but a spot check revealed one employee even had windscreen wipers going backward' :-) ;-) :-) * Wyvern waits for dave's :-P * dave rofl rats % ...and dave fixes descartes dhcp problems from nhbr. damn, I am _too_ good. bleedy stupid people replaced their trusty reliable 2210 router with a cisco, and didn't configure it correctly. clients say "give me an IP" dhcp says "OK, take this one" the clients never get the message, cos of the bleedy router therefore, dhcp server quickly runs out of addresses as it alocates them to lots of clients who never get them, and hey presto, one entire shagged location network. % (Re Hursley Linux day - June 3rd 1999) sadly i can't go as im moving my parents that day, so i guess it wont happen :( * dave points at dc and rofl * Wyvern looks at the dull, rusty knife dc just pulled out and fears for dave's life yeah, fate kicks me in the ass again of course, at least i am still employed by ibm =) does you car have british windscreen wipers? % damnit I need one more entry before I can release fortunes v5 someone say something good * ivo2_linu staroffice 5.1 is out % grep;touch;strip;unzip;head;mount /dev/girl -t wet;fsck;fsck;yes;yes;yes;umount % I was in Chamonix (French alps) last summer. I was at the foot of the mountain (Aguille D'Midi) it was _hot_ 35 degrees +. I went to top of mountain (15000 ft) not thinking about it. I was wearing shorts. Nothing else. Bottom of mountain, 35 degrees. Top of mountain, -02 degrees. Wearing shorts. For 4 hours. I was cold. :-) hehe did you learn your lesson? :) I remember skiing in the Austrian Alps a few years ago, it was -12 midday. Down to about -35 at night no - the next day I went _inside_ a glacier, tourist thing. same deal, much colder, _and_ water was dripping down! dave: fool ;) % echo "#include "t-shirt.h" #include "people.h" int main(void){ if(t-shirt->wearer!=people.dave){ cout <<"Kewl T-Shirt"< testshirt.cpp ; g++ -c testshirt.cpp; ./testshirt.cpp % how's at&t treating you dave? * dave cannot contain his excitement at working for such a modern and dynamic company. heh :-) don't even think about talking to me about house buying :-) so how's the house-thing going? * dave shoots scromp. In the head. With an elephant gun. Twice. % We speak amerian deal with it lol % hrm. Brian Hook has left Id Software uhuh he's purchased a large rocket launcher and is going to blow the living cr@p out of tom pabst =) bd: :) bh: so tom, u think u know how to benchmark? tp: Uhuh, and u dont know nuffin, u, u, coder, u. bh: well tom, benchmark this.. <[BLAM]> tp: arughhhh.. splatttt! bh: as any educated person could see, the polygon count on that shot was lower, as toms limited rending substructure would not have been able to cope with an increased texel rate required to display the scene in its true manner. hehehe. hook on tom pabst: " we are engineers, and we understand how the basic underlying principles of the scientific method work. We don't like it when other sites run benchmarks in a suspect manner, and in the past Tom's ... numbers, methodologies, and motives have all been suspect..." uhuh how long has this feud been going on? this is the first I've seen of it months ever since tom posted q3a benchmarks, after bh said the q3a benchmarking was broken, and tom replied bh is speaking bollox, and that he was right, to which bh replied whos more likely to be speaking bollox, me, the coder of the s/w or u, a 12yr old german kiddy who cant pull his knob out of his arse for long enuff to admit he might be wrong it all kinda escalated from there.. % perl -e 'print $i=pack(c5,(41*2),sqrt(7056),(unpack(c,H)-2),oct(115),10);' % dave: im trying to benchmark my home lan performance per protocol, per direction.. nothing but bleedy problems bd: what tools are you using? a stopwatch and a 50mb file bd: hehehhe :-) % dave: Any advances on beating the socks people up? do you need a tag team? I need to find out the IP on the other side of that socks gate hmm how do you do that? experimenting with scromp later dave: coolio. You're a star :) * RichT wuvs dave scromp is the star, I am merely a supporting actor :-) "Best supporting AIX guru goes to, er..I'm having trouble with the envelope, there we go...Dave Peacock!!!!" * dave goes up to the podium "I'd...sob....blub...like to thank my budgie, my cat, my parents, my friends, the bloke I met last week in hursley, the guy who sold me my house, blub, sob...." (Five minutes later) "The teacher that first inspired me to use a computer....the guy who sold me my Peugeot...sob blub" (Ten minutes later) "And finally Lou Gerstner..." "For selling me :(" % wyvern: I went on a brewery tour last night. (Gales brewery, horndean). I found a beer they made called "Wyvern". it is a low alcohol thing. you ponce. * Wyvern is spiked with half^H^H^H^H a bottle of vodka % http://www.in-machina.com/~reece/humor/human_dna.h % * RichT smells a rat... richt: sorry, its just the way I was sitting. lol % Suntzu> our dave is growing into a bofh" need a bofh translation :) suntzu: the problem originates with your monitor suffering from turbo dryhlustent heat microgordics. I suggest you pour water over your monitor until this clears up. Ensure your monitor is powered on, and you are steadying it with one hand, or it wont work. * RichT never saw dave as being the bastard type, but oh well, he's taken to it like a duck to water ;) microgordics eh? Wow. * RichT gets a jug of water... * dave giggles dave: Do I leave the monitor on yeh? * dave nods okies *** Signoff: RichT (EOF From client) Your problem is caused by: Ack, no. Don't talk to me about that. *** RichT (richt@richt.as.global.ibm.com) has joined channel #linux richt: rofl Hmmm smoky % i bash meanies % phrank, so what are you doing this weekend? You. lol hehehehheeheh lol rofl % Hmm... anyone have any good hints on tracking down a memory-corrupting bug? put a nice tasty bit of memory out on top of a big net connected to a bent over tree, tied with a rope, then, when the bug eats the ram, cut the rope, capturing the bug in the net. % * dave preferes brunettes/redheads actually * dave hacks ozzy's hack to suit his requirements *** Seven (SevenOf9@9-20-74-210.dhcp-nl.hursley.ibm.com) has joined channel #linux See! I made a redhead appear :-) % *** RichT has set the topic: "Naomi Candle in 'A' Bomb Scandal" % Name: alex@bishop.mul.ie.ibm.com (god. root. what's the difference?) Server: uk.irc.ibm.com (IBM North Harbour (UK)) Idle: 39 seconds % I need some help naming the new machines they are quad CPU so it would be nice to have a "four" theme. unfortunately "french hens" has a space in it % furniture/house/garden/lisa wants a new car... etc pah.. furniture etc =) new pc is low down on my list :-( well, noone but u can raise it its ur list dammnit =) * BarDwellr supplies handy script for dave. * dave giggles * BarDwellr rebels against women power on men ;-P 's/furniture/2ndhandbitsfrombootsale; s/garden/oneofozzyssparemowersplusflowersfromaroundabout; s/pcin2000/pcnow' % I know what you're thinking. Did he fire six shots or only five? Well, to tell you the truth, in all this excitement, I've kinda lost track myself. But being as this is a .44 Magnum, the most powerful handgun in the world, and would blow your head clean off, you've got to ask yourself one question: Do I feel lucky? Well, do ya punk? % * dave just took an IQ test. (One DL'd from the internet) so, did it came back positive? % * angrygod kicks Free_x cause he made dave flood the channel. % the SLK is a vario roof, not soft top, hard top, but convertable at the press of a button. Sweet. Very sweet. and it has air con for when you don't want the roof down. (Yeah, right ;-)) engine ranging from 2.5 to 4.5 litre. 2.5 has 0 to 60 in 7.3 seconds. it will be mine. Oh yes, it will be mine. I offered to swap it for my 206, but he said he couldn't take the raw power the 206 would offer him, so he thought he better not :-) % "Are you coming?" -- "No, it's just the way I'm sitting." % CMVC responds with the speed of the passport office % "I doesn't work" which I presume is a typo for "It doesn't work" Rasmus: So did you reply back "Is your management aware of this?" % *** Re ASCII music video of California Dreaming - www.vuk.org/ascii/music do u have a friggin clue what is in the window ?? it looks like a foetus scan from a pregnant womans womb % *** Shortly after scromp kills everyone on uk.irc whilst trying to *** get his nick back... scromp: but u nuked every1 in the process. prash: oh, thanks, didn't notice % heh, lotus notes scripting: as much fun as self castration with a melon scoop, and just as fulfilling % dave naked?!?! Where?! Where?!. Umm, I mean, oh % dave: I dont understand, how can anyone not be prepared to let some large oafish tatoo covered male manhandle his nob, then shove a spike through it? % trev's nicked disk1 "to check out his MPEG playing status" % Is there a way to have an SMP machine power off on "halt" (APM is disabled on SMP) ? train a monkey to sit there and punch the power button when he sees the shutdown sequence how do i get rid of the monkey when the machine is off? get a penguin to kill it with a shotgun you could have him hooked up to some electrodes that trip whenever the box goes down and electrocute him but then you'd have to replace him every reboot long piece of string? when I have a penguin but it is a stuffed Tux! I'm sure it wouldn't shoot the monkey mmm, any practical solutions? % while true; do ctlinnd rmgroup `cat /news/db/active | cut -f1 -d' ' | sort -u | head -1`; sleep 1200; done ^^ that'll take care of news service while you're away % ok, i know u tech ppl think its funny to swap the hursley proxy with a lump of cheese every so often, but its NOT!! so put back the real proxy.. the one that served pages, not daft ibm network traffic express (ha! express! trades descriptions could have a field day) error messages.. no more cheese! % uhuh.. it now tries to make u feel better about the fact it has stolen your web page, and replaced it with its own 'Web traffic express' page, by placing semi-technical descriptions of the problem % *** BarDwellr is now known as | <|> Course : T2HHB02 <|> Overview : <|> A course intended to take technical personalities, and retrain <|> them using a selection of pioneering techniques by our resident <|> specialist Dr Van Orsted. After retraining, technical issues will <|> take a low priority, and day to day household tasks will be of <|> overriding importance. <|> Price : 300 UKP (2 weeks) <|> Locations : Chisleworth, Ludmoor, Thursledon, Bangor *** | is now known as BarDwellr % * dave listening to "The Kids Arn't Alright" by Offspring. "dave had a chance, he really did, dropped outta skool and had a couple of kids (and some DAT tapes, several PCs and a DVD player)" % "stress is the natural reaction to the body's attempt to override the impulse to choke the living s**t out of some a**hole who desperately needs it" :) % * mpb goes on expedition to locate the lost continent of Atlantis, and get a cup of coffee I think the former might be easier if you are in D % dave this is igs as long as you have money dosn't matter who you are % The best thing was that going on holiday was that I didnt have to go with out my computer or internet access. We had a 34 mb micrwave connection so, you were not AWOL (Absent without Linux)? ;-) % * Cheesy nods. You are getting crap beacause lart only accepts one argument ah !linuxbot lart cheesy -LinuxBot- cheesy- this one is for you, baby! *** Mode change "+b *!stephen@9-20-30-34.dhcp.hursley.ibm.com" on channel #linux by LinuxBot -LinuxBot- uhoh... you know what's coming next, doncha? *** Signoff: Cheesy (Killed (LARTED by jpayne)) -LinuxBot- OK oh yeah % dave - what does invalid compressed format = 1, system halted mean? u be fuct heh as yoda would say: mmm, shafted are you % cheesy: I failed my first one too, all the best drivers pass second time Same diff. you can't learn driving over there anyway *scromp* this *is* the second one =) % * Rocky thinks #linux has no proffessionalism. right, profesionals spell 'profession' with one 'f' % * dave feels old now. it just kicked in. child hood is over :-( * mpb offers dave a zimmer-frame * dave goes to Dunn & Co to purchase a nice grey cardigan * mpb rofl % *** morpheus (saint__69@dyn9-67-174-50.raleigh.ibm.com) has joined channel #aix hello mr. penis oh...sorry...that's morpheus % * BarDwellr not gonna admit to spending the night in daves bed no matter how u phrase it % *** KaiserSoz (root@DOGBERT.watson.ibm.com) has joined #linux I can't figure out PCMCIA schemes ne1 know how to co-exist a wireless network card and a token-ring card, using schemes? someone must have used PCMCIA schemes? I think that guy over there did at least he looked like he was up to something scromp useful as always kaisersoz: I am like a usefulness mirror what you perceive as uselessness are merely the effects of my bogon shield * KaiserSoz likens scromp to an ash-tray on a motor-bike * scromp likens kaisersoz to a clueless wanker heh scromp - subtle * scromp bows shows great character and maybe a great arse when he bows :) ks: I guess I see this as a medium for information _exchange_ rather than mere spoonfeeding % ooo someone cut and paste quick : " THANK GOD yes, this is all for windows" ;-) % wey, hey.. I've got notes 5.1 working under redhat/2.2.10..... sod womens undies..... steve: I assume we are talking server here? nope. thru' wine? yep. ah that aint impressive :-) i thought you meant native no, i'm not that clever... neither are lotus % dave: I'm engaged scromp! as in marriage??? kewl!!!!!!!! no, as in warp speed. % I know a girl who called the 1-800 help number on the back of a campbell's soup can % arrrrghh.. linux is dead thats it.. it says so in the relnotes File System Updates Welsh Language ISO 8859-14 (The Celtic languages) is now supported for UTF8 translations. see! modprobe sheep i dont see the connection personally :) sheep.o: wrong gender insmod -f sheep.o fsck /dev/sheep or... ls ls: command deprecated... us llyangerithgogogothls we're doomed! ARGH * dave heads for the hills. hang on, the hills are in wales... * dave heads for the low lands :-) need to find some wood, need to make long bow run to the hills... run for ur lives I expect there will be a new releae of linux-fortunes soon :-) we will fight them on the beaches.. umm.. hang on that was another one module wales.o: memory leek detected. % * dave bows * angrygod takes a picture of dave's arse. nice arse, dave. a pity there's a huge crack in it. % The guy who runs the box is security mad, it wont do any good don't underestimate the power of the for^H^H^Hpayne % dave's a flop :) so the ladies say ;-) % cthulhu sleeps under the ocean currently, waiting to come destroy the world scromp: I thought that was Godzilla? no, he's dead % Actually, no. It's my birtday so I'm trying to avoid getting dragged into projects that'll have me running around like a moron all day. *** jpayne has changed the topic on channel #linux to be nice to angrygod day - old age doesn't come easy % *BarDwellr* problem is the daft tp is stupid, windows is stupid, so whats the chances of it working *BarDwellr* let me see.. an 'ibm custom h/w pc' and a 'microsoft product' with 'microsoft drivers' % so both M$ and Sun are jumping into the application server waters computers don't work too well submerged like that % checking for TT_Init_FreeType in -lttf... yes checking for mike in mae_ling... yes checking for mass_quantities_of_bass_ale in -lFridge... no checking for mass_quantities_of_any_ale in -lFridge... no Warning: No ales were found in your refrigerator. We highly suggest that you rectify this situation immediately. checking for XTestGrabControl in -lXtst... yes from enlightenment % * mpb wakes up and falls back asleep...zzzZ % Hmm... I need a way to have a slight pause in a JS function... Dom: make it load the java VM...he he mpb: Hmm... thought about that - but that's toooooo slooooow :) % lf